1
Samuel 28: 11-12a
Then
the woman said, Whom shall I bring up for you? And he (King Saul)
said, Bring up Sh’muel (Sh'muEl/Samuel) for me. When the woman saw
Sh’muel, she cried out with a loud voice;
1
Samuel 28: 13
The
king said to her, Do not be afraid; but what do you see? And the
woman said to Shaul, I
see
[an??] elohim
being coming up out of the earth.
NOTE:
This is very curious, and not what one envisions coming up from the
grave or dreaded Sheol??
1
Thessalonians 5: 23
May
God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May
your whole spirit (Heb. ruachkem), soul (Heb. naph'sh'kem) and body
(Heb. guph'kem) be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus
Christ.
NOTE:
Why do none of the words in the passage use “elohim” or similar
root as in 1 Samuel 28?
1
Samuel 28: 14
He
said to her, What
is his form?
And she said, An old man is coming up, and he is wrapped with a
robe. And Shaul knew that it was Sh’muel...
NOTE:
Saul wanted proof that this was not some kind of deceitful magical or
demonic trick, and it was authenticated by the robe that the departed
Samuel wore before he died.
1
Samuel 28: 15
Then
Sh’muel said to Shaul, Why
have you disturbed me by bringing me up?
And Shaul said, I am greatly distressed; for the Philistines are
waging war against me, and Elohim
has departed from me
and has not answered me any more, neither by the hand of prophets
nor by dreams; therefore I
have called you, that you may make known to me what I should do.
NOTE:
Since Elohim (God) had departed from Saul, why would a desperate king
break the law and risk death by using a medium (witch) to summon the
spirit of a dead and departed prophet to help him in the “land of
the living,” or did he know something that we do not?
1
Samuel 28: 16
Sh’muel
said, Why then do you ask me, since YHVH has departed from you and
has become your adversary?
NOTE:
Why the switch here? Is YHVH one of the Elohim?
Job
2: 1-2
Again
there was a day when the
sons of the Elohim
came to present themselves before YHVH, and the satan also came
among them to present himself before YHVH. YHVH said to the satan,
Where have you come from? Then the satan answered YHVH and said,
“From roaming about [on] the earth and from walking around [on]
it.” SEE also Job 1: 6-7.
NOTE:
The Hebrew tries to be faithful to the correct translation, but in
this case I think the words should be [through] and [in].
Genesis
6: 4
The
Nephilim
(Heb. haN’philim) were
on the earth “in those days,”
and also afterward, when the sons of the Elohim came in to the
daughters of the man, and they bore to them. They were the mighty
men who were of old, men of renown.
Genesis
10: 25
Two
sons were born to Eber; the name of the one was Peleg, for in
his days the earth was divided
(Heb. niph’l’gah) ; and his brother’s name was Jothan.
NOTE:
In Genesis 6 and 10 the same Hebrew root (“niphl”) has to do
with some kind of “division” (separation, gulf, chasm, impassable
region, or barrier between types of unique 'kinds' of people. There
could very well have been surface dwellers and those semi-divine
beings that lived “inner Earth” or “Hollow Earth" or Middle
Earth after the Tolkien series. "Middle-earth",
or Endor
in
Quenya
(Ennor
in
Sindarin)
- and in The
Book of Lost Tales
the
Great Lands -are
the names used for the habitable parts of Arda
after
the final ruin of Beleriand,
east across the Belegaer from
Aman.
Genesis
2: 8a, 10-14
And
the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east.
Now
a
river flowed out of Eden
to water the garden; and from
there it divided and became four rivers. The
name of the first is Pishon; it
flows around the whole land of Havilah,
where there is gold. The gold of that land is good; the bdellium
and the onyx stone are there. The name of the second river is
Gihon; it
flows around the whole land of Cush. The
name of the third river is Tigris;
it flows east of Assyria.
And the
fourth river is the Euphrates.
NOTE:
Havilah is associated with southern Egypt and Gihon is thought to be
in Ethiopia. That one river for these other 4 must have been one
powerful flow of water, and what was it's source, anyway?
1
Peter 3: 18-20
For
Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the
unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body,
but made alive in the spirit, in which He
also went and
preached to
the
spirits
(Heb. ruchoth) in prison
who
disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah,
while the ark was being built. In the ark a few people, only eight
souls (Heb. n'phasoth), were saved through water.…
NOTE:
The particular people were part of the inbreeding with the sons of
God and daughters of men (Cp. Genesis
6: 1-7a).
Everything on the “surface” of the earth was going to be
destroyed but what about those who lived “in” the earth??
This does not pertain to those of us who die because when we do we
are asleep (Cp. Daniel 12: 2; Matthew 27: 52; John 11: 11). Hebrew
root words taken from bayithamashiyach.com
COMMENTARY:
The
legendary garden of Eden might very well have not been on the Earth,
but “in” it or perhaps Cain's punishment to be a restless
wanderer “on” the earth and worrying about someone (??) finding
him and slaying him (Cp. Genesis
4: 12-16).
In that same chapter Cain not only finds a wife in the land of Nod,
east of Eden but instead, builds a city; quite a feat I would say.
Not only that, but I would think he met some people in the land of
Nod where he found a wife. This is before Adam had other sons and
daughters (Cp. Genesis
5: 4-5)
and when men began to increase “on” [ not “in”] the earth and
daughters were born to them (Cp. Genesis
6: 1-2).
The land of Uz of the prophet Job, which seems like quite an ancient
text, at least in it's deep and profound perspective on God (Elohim)
could be an 'inner/Middle-earth)” literary work. The land of Uz could be on the Earth's surface but the conversation between the Lord
and the satan and the meeting with the sons of God at an appointed
time could have taken place in the “Hollow Earth..” One
last point is found in Isaiah 37: 12, which reads: Did
the gods of the nations that were destroyed by my predecessors
deliver them—the gods of Gozan, Harran, Rezeph and the
people of Eden
who were in Tel Assar (Cp. 2
Kings 19: 12)?
Was this Eden and its people on the earth or "in” the earth?
Robert
Randle
776
Commerce St Apt 701
Tacoma,
WA 98402
January
23, 2018
